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    Mechsoldier commented  · 

    All right, to all the, "The police are there to help us." Clowns.

    You want to see what police there to to help you looks like? Go to Europe. There, you'll find police that rarely patrol in a vehicle. They are at the station waiting for a real call so they can respond in decent time.

    They rarely radar, if they do it's a radar camera car parked on the road.

    They DO foot patrols where they may actually catch a crime in progress.

    Speeding isn't more dangerous, and research shows so. It's more important to drive with the flow of the rest of traffic. Germany has the highest speed limits on Earth, with something like 40 to 60 percent of the Autobahn having no speed limit at all, and the parts that do are mostly 73 mph. Yet they have some of the lowest per capita accident and fatalities on Earth.

    Less than half what the US has per 100k people.

    As somebody who is into cars, I can tell you that getting harassed by the cops for no reason is all too common. Well not NO reason they'll pull you over and claim things are illegal that aren't.

    Before I bought a BMW X5 on 20s I hadn't had a ticket in 7 years. I then got 6 tickets in 2 years. A couple of the times the tickets I got were absolutely false, like saying I was doing 90 which is nearly impossible without knowing you're doing it because your foot is on the floor, and I had my two sons in the car and was NOT doing 90.

    I've actually had the cops roll up on my employees mother after meeting to give her the paycheck for her son and ask her, "Whose the Ni****, why did you meet him where'd the Ni**** Go That's when I officially figured out minorities get singled out. I've seen the expression on an officers face, hand on gun, change immediately upon rolling my window down.

    The other tickets were b.s. tickets that I either got overturned, or my wife took the insurance card out the car, etc.

    The worst is unmarked patrols. It's illegal in most states to patrol in an unmarked car. But there's a tiny little loophole that says the police chief can authorize it, and so most states have it. It's clearly against the spirit of the law, the loophole was meant for things like surveiling actual criminals without notice. NOT for following people around until they do something you can pull them over on.

    We have so many laws in the US, it's highly unlikely that the majority of people can even make it to work without breaking the law.

    Cross that white line to stop at a light with your bumper, or your tires touch the line on either side of the Hwy, change lanes on the Hwy without ten seconds in that lane, forget to turn your highbeams off, have a random bulb go out WHILE DRIVING home one night, turn at some intersection that has a no right on red sign half covered by trees 100 yards before the light, or have more than 5 cars behind you, not in the right lane but you aren't passing? You've broken the law and can be pulled over.

    The funny part is most the people claiming cops are there to help are the Prius driving dicks in the left lane who have 5 cars on their ass doing 59 because they think it's their job to regulate traffic. THAT is the biggest danger on the roads, those of you who mess up flow and most cops will tell you that.

    It's of little to no danger to mark where cops are. Most people with ill will aren't using waze to target them, they may pass a cop and circle around, but if you were trying to use waze chances are they won't be there anymore when you get there.

    Also here's the thing. I was a sergeant in the Army. Sitting in one spot as a speed trap is poor tactical security anyway. If you're just sitting there waiting to pull somebody over you're a sitting duck regardless. They're doing it for revenue generation without wasting fuel.

    The derelicts interested in harming a cop, half of em don't even have a car they've been in and out the system so long. Here in Washington we had one of the worst officer murders in the country when Maurice Clemmons had his buddy (no car see) drive him to a coffee stand in Spanaway Washington and killed 4 officers starting their shifts.

    Police do all kinds of things that are a danger to their security, but if they're parked on the Hwy they're writing tickets, in 5 min they'll be a half mile up the road.

    And marking ROLLING officers is even less a hazard.

    This is all about letting people know, look there's a cop near you, so you better be sure you just sit in your lane and don't even think of moving from your lane or going a quarter mile over the limit, don't drink your coffee, or change the radio, because there are nearly infinite reasons you could be singled out.

    It's not uncommon for lawyers and cops to say that there are so many laws at this point and many with such ambiguity that it's impossible to avoid breaking them all.

    You could be arrested for something as simple as driving your wife's or sons car to work when their coworker or friend left their prescription meds in your car.

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    Mechsoldier commented  · 

    Exactly to Gamma and a big screw you and your b.s. lies to police:

    Cops barely ever even stop to help anymore. If you aren't a white chick standing by your car they're not stopping. The last 2 or 3 times I've been broken down I've watched multiple officers just roll right by.

    Research has proven that doing even 80 or 90 is no less dangerous than 60 given proper road conditions.

    Germany had the highest speed limits in the world, unlimited on many Autobahn sections and even when limited often 80 mph about.

    Yet they have some of the lowest per capita accident and fatality rates.

    If you want to see protecting and serving the public check out the model in Europe. Officers don't patrol by vehicle searching for trouble. They are trained in de-escalation tactics, and most of them hang at the station waiting for a crime to ACTUALLY serve. If they are in public at all they're on foot just walking around the city making sure people safe. The normal officers don't have to carry guns because they are actually trying to help people not correct revenue. When there's a real threat they get reinforcements who ARE weaponixed.

    It leads to less officer deaths, less dead civilians, less assaults because some cop decided he saw a source of revenue and wanted to be John Wayne.

    I wish more people could see how EVERYBODY else does it. Policing is dead wrong in the US.

    NOBODY is rolling up on you to hurt you that wouldn't have already because they saw you on their own.

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    Mechsoldier commented  · 

    This is why I WANT police reporting. Especially we need police in motion reporting.

    Somebody thinking of drinking and driving may just see the police presence and change their mind.

    The police are NOT parked on the highway for our safety they're there to generate revenue.

    I lived in Germany 3 years. Police in Germany aren't out patrolling, they don't radar at all other than they will park a wagon or truck on the side of the road as a speed trap.

    The police don't drive around looking for reasons to pull people over. They're at the station ready to move out to a call other than foot patrols on weekend nights and stuff.

    And they have portions if hwy with speed limit at all, yet they have much lower fatality and accident rates per capita.

    Speeds in excess of 80 are really no more dangerous than 60. It's bs. It's all for revenue.

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