Conditional use of toll roads if saves more than set percentage of time
I live in Northern Virginia (US) where we have a growing network of high occupancy toll (HOT) lanes paralleling existing roads. These come up as separate roads in Waze as they have their own on ramps and off ramps. Just to make them more fun, they have variable tolling so when traffic is more congested on the "free" lanes the toll lanes cost goes higher. The speed limit is also higher on the toll lanes so they always come out as preferred over the regular lanes for navigation.
The current Waze app allows selection to avoid or not avoid toll roads. This won't work for a commute like mine being that part of my drive goes on a regular toll road as the alternate route would take twice as long for the given segment of my drive. For the segment of my drive where the HOT lanes are present, there are cases when I would prefer to use those lanes being that if there is a major incident in the regular lanes the HOT lanes can save a considerable amount of time.
This could be addressed if Waze had an option such as "Prefer toll road if saves over threshold percent of time" where the percent can be set to a driver's preference. Best would be if this can be calculated on segments of the drive rather than just the entire drive. By calculating on segments the first part of my drive would stay on the toll road as that part would be over the set percentage if I took an alternate route. For the second part of my drive the navigation would be able to send me to the regular or HOT lanes based on traffic conditions.
Other's have suggested using cost based preference, using a toll road if it will cost under a set amount. This won't work for the HOT lanes because of their variable tolling when the cost to use the road can vary significantly throughout the day.
Great thinking! The issue you raised has been addressed in a recent redesign. Hope you like it!
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Craig Fenton commented
I very much agree. There's a HUGE difference between a toll road and the express lanes. I live in the northern Virginia area and the express lanes are a lot of money for very little commute change. Waze constantly wants to direct me to express lanes for a 2-3 minute cut to the time and the fees are around $12 to go 3 miles.
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Rob Durant commented
I've thought about this same suggestion!
Admin, the piece that is missing right now is the time vs toll comparison of routes.
A user preference in the settings would be ideal!
As in, "Default to the free route until/ unless you can save me [10]+ minutes per every $1 in tolls." Where the time is a user-genrated preference. -
JP Dehollain commented
Hi Ella, could you give more details on how to access this feature? I can't find it in my Waze settings. I currently only have the option to set avoid tolls on or off in my navigation menu.
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Gershom Tave commented
Users should be able to enter a time valuation by which Waze can offer to include only the tolls that are worth the time they save and bypass those that are not worth it. Currently the options are all tolls or no tolls and it is ridiculous to offer a second option which is longer AND more expensive which I see all the time while the middle ground is not offered.
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Francesco commented
It would be very nice to be able to see the estimated toll cost not only in the routes selector on the iPhone screen, but also in the CarPlay routes view. So the driver can check how much is the toll cost on the car's screen without the need to use the phone screen.
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Paul Moorefield commented
Please differentiate between toll lanes and express (use based price) lanes. When these variable price lanes in DFW can be $30 for a single rush hour commute you should have separate toggles for toll & express. Just displaying "variable" makes it difficult to select best route
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Jason Fournier commented
I would like a configurable option on Waze to set how much my time is worth saving via toll roads. Wave regularly recommends that I travel a toll road costing $13 to save 2-3 minutes. This is an effective rate of about $300 per hour of saved travel time, or about $5/minute. I would like to set my own threshold to $60/hour ($1/minute) so that if Waze thinks my $13 toll trip would save me 15 minutes, then select it. Otherwise, I would rather take the non-toll route.
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Jeffrey Poore commented
You should be able to choose whether to use express lanes. The express lanes near us are expensive. We would still like to use toll roads (you might have both on a route) but not necessarily express lanes if we have that option (plus how much time does it save us vs the cost?)
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Mael Strom commented
I think it would be a great idea to have users be able to customize their own toll penalties so they can decide how much time is worth saving based on the cost of the tolls; i.e. every unit currency must save the user a customizable amount of minutes. (e.g. at least 6 minutes saved per USD).
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Wiki commented
Without going through settings... Is it possible to have a button on the map or last second option prior to route navigation to destination to click for no toll option? It's very annoying to go through settings every time to click on/off avoid toll. It'd be nice to have the option to quickly compare toll or no toll option see see if paying for the toll is worth time saved for the drive.
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Adam Crane commented
something like this is exactly what I'm looking for. I live right near a lot of tolls, so I just have avoid tolls roads on.
Having a setting of how much you're willing to spend to save X number of minutes would be huge.
Or
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Moonze commented
Waze took me on a route that was a toll route. There was no other option to reroute me so I didnt have to go through and pay the toll. There could be a setting to not use any toll routes. Especially for out of town drivers. I am driving from Ca, to Tx, in a few weeks and would like to automatically avoid any tolls.
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Jim commented
I would love this. When I'm driving for Uber and Lyft, I set to avoid tolls when I don't have a pax, and to allow tolls on most trips with a pax. It's currently a pain to go into the settings and change this. I'd love it if there were a toggle on the main UI. Going through the menu while driving is very inconvenient.
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Ed commented
We have a Toll Road with dynamic pricing. I need a fast way to change from Toll to non-Toll while driving at 55 mph and approaching a normally $8 toll that is suddenly as much as $49 (not a typo). It is dangerous to go three steps into the app while driving. There are several alternative routes (one also has a dynamic toll but is usually $4-5 but 15 minutes slower) and the others are no-Toll but can be 20-45 minutes longer (variably which one is shorter and which is longer). Can you put a Toll toggle on the main page, or provide both Toll and non-Toll options when you click on Routes? Several times in the past week all three options took me on the $49 route!
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Chaim commented
I totally agree. Have this in my mind for so long, glad to see it out there.
Coming from upstate New York into the city could easily coat you $25 if Waze is taking you through all those expensive crossings. Sometimes it only save a couple minutes, but it costs an arm and a leg.
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Anonymous commented
Sometimes Waze will send me on Kvish 6 to save 2 minutes. How about a setting “Toll road only to save at least X minutes”. That way it will only take me to the toll road to save significant time.
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Tim commented
Very similar idea....
If Avoid Toll Roads is turned on, ability to have a 2nd level that allows for a time and/or amount/cost saving feature, so would avoid toll if less and if greater would allow toll route
Time is simply time limit maximum
Cost would be based on amount per distance or maximum amount of tolls, user would have to enter the $ per km/mi or $ max
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Tharuka commented
I'm a user who use Waze everyday. When using waze it gives me the fastest route. Sometimes I ended up paying a large amount in toll for a 2 mins faster route. If waze shows the the amount of toll that cost to take the toll route. It will be easy for the user to decide if taking the toll route is worth the time user is saving.
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Anonymous commented
Rather than two options for tolls (avoid tolls or use tolls), I would like a 3rd option where I use tolls if it saves me a $ per unit of time (which I will have the flexibility to set). For example, I could select the 3rd option where I would take the toll road if it saves me > 1 minute for every 50 cents spent, and if it doesn't save me enough time then it will take me on the non toll road.
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Paytsar commented
Came here to suggest this! Waze is the best navigation app there is, and there is no way this "cost efficient" navigation can't be implemented elegantly and yet keeping waze simple. Instead of turning "avoid toll roads" on or off, when giving the destination address, waze users should be able to make an "educated choice" time vs. money.