If user could use settings to set something like "use toll roads if it shortens the time on the road for at least XX minutes" or "use toll road if fuel economy if more then $XX". Waze gives us multiple routs from A to B, sometimes it is better to use toll road, sometimes it cuts only about 5-6 minutes from the trip (or less) - still not the reason to use toll road, too expensive for this outcome. But sometimes toll road is way better, so we don't want to forbid waze to suggest us toll-roads. I think you have all the data and tools you need to make this feature possible.
Thanks for your feedback. At this time, this doesn't fit on our roadmap, but we'll keep it in mind for future product planning.
John Scott commented
Is there some way to choose routes based on presence with a secondary backup. For example. Shortest route without tolls with a secondary to include tolls if there is a 10% decrease in time or distance.
Right, Waze used to let wazers choose between the shortest (min distance) and fastest (min time) routes. With this new suggestion setting the cost of operating your vehicle high (cost / distance) and the cost for your personal time (cost / time) low would let you prioritize shorter routes over the fastest.
As for the question about the Lewisville TX interchange, it appears that the current choice is between paying $1.23 toll to take a 2 min / 1.8 mile route verses a free route that is 7 min / 4.9 miles. If you simply plugged in the standard cost of operating a vehicle ($0.56 per mile) we find that you'll save $1.74 in operating costs by paying the $1.23 toll. We don't even need to consider that it saves 5 minutes on your trip to see that paying the toll is the best value for the wazers.
Sean Julian commented
This seems like a reasonable request, although I would love the choice to bring up shortest route again too!
I do think this could help out in the situations where currently Waze tends to route around a short toll section due to the penalty that is applied to the tolled route. As an example, in Lewisville TX, from SH-121 S to I-35E N, Waze will usually opts for the frontage road (which includes a right hand turn at a very busy intersection) over a very short tolled ramp between the two freeways. It will still get you to your destination, but like myself, the user will ask "why did Waze do this??"
Itai Aviv commented
After selecting target point, let's say there are 2 optional roads: 1 with payment, second without. If time difference is lower than 5 minutes (for example. the number can be defined by user settings), waze will prefer the path without payment.
בכל נסיעה אני בודקת מה הפער בין נסיעה בכביש אגרה וכביש רגיל - אם מדובר על 10 דקות ומטה - לא אטרח לשלם את האגרה.
אם יכולתי להגדיר את זה או מה הפער של הקילומטרים בין המסלולים - זה היה מקל עלי לסמוך על הווייז ולא לבדוק את המסלולים.
Mustafa Al-Salman commented
Toll roads sometimes are expensive and it's not as busy. At least here in Ontario, Canada. So my "Avoid Toll Roads" option in the App is usually turned ON because it always suggests Toll Road for me as the quickest. It will be good to have a sub-option to alert drivers if the Toll Road will save the X amount of time (X set by the user) from non-toll road route. this way, i dont have to check the options.
Grigory Goncharov Vogman commented
Additionally, when "no tolls" route is selected it adds 15 minutes detour to avoid a $0.90 toll. I am fine with $0.90 toll, but don't want to pay other tolls totaling almost $17 on the highway.
Grigory Goncharov Vogman commented
It would be nice to have a "minimize tolls" options for routes. I'm in the US and when I, for example, drive from NYC to Philadelphia I get either a route via I-95 (with a lot of tolls) or (if "no tolls" switch is on) a much longer route via some remote highways.
I know for a fact that there is a route that will take 10-20 minutes longer but will save me $15-$20 on tolls via Rt-1.
The problem is, the only way to get that route in Waze is to add a random stop on the way, which is very inconvenient and doesn't allow to make an educated choice.
User of Waze Sydney, Please have a setting between the total avoidance of tolls and the subdugation of road uses for Toll extraction. My setting was minimal and Waze directed me in rush hour traffic through Sydney CBD and onto the Harbour Bridge, it took me 1 3/4 Hours to get to my destination and had to self amend the route to save time and I still had tolls to pay. Please have a setting between the existing settings that balances the cost of time and volume of traffic with the charging of Tolls.
Now that waze knows the cost of using a toll road offer a routing option where the wazer specifies how much they are willing to pay to save 5 minutes of their time and how much it costs to operate their vehicle (fuel + wear over a unit distance). A route's cost, the sum of both the route's duration and distance, would then replace the route's duration when it comes time to rank the routes with the best route being the one that costs the least.
By letting me, the wazer, pick the costs I can be assured that waze will only recommend using a toll road when the time saved justifies the added cost of the tolls.
John Glade commented
Absolutely agree with this idea. In Miami, I would happily pay $1 or $2 and travel certain roads, but I would seldom agree to pay $10. The current options are binary, tolls OK or no tolls. This would be a good enhancement if possible. The most important problem to solve though is road closures.
L'idée revient à reprendre une fonction que j'utilisais souvent avec TomTom (quand les idées sont bonnes, il n'y a pas de raison de ne pas les reprendre !). Je vous donne un exemple concret de son utilisation : j'arrive souvent sur Paris par l'A13 pour me rendre vers le sud. Par défaut Waze me fait passer quasi systématiquement par l'A86 Duplex alors que très fréquemment le passage par l'A12 pour rejoindre ensuite l'A86 (après le tunnel duplex) ne coûte que 1 ou 2 minutes de plus en faisant économiser le très coûteux péage de l'A86 duplex.
Donc, dans TomTom, je cliquais pour éviter cette portion de route et mon itinéraire était automatiquement recalculé en fonction de ça.
Zohar Boneh commented
אופציה נוספת מלבד עם ובלי אגרה, שמציעה דבר ראשון ללא אגרה ואז שולחת התראה שמעדכנת כמה זמן אתה יכול לחסוך אם כן תיקח כביש אגרה
I second this Suggestion. I am willing to pay a toll to get to work on time, but not to save 7 minutes off my commute.
Great idea! I do this manually each day as my commute can take place on either a toll or non toll road. If my time savings on the toll road is less than 10 minutes then I take the non toll road (cost benefit analysis). If the time savings is more than 10 minutes then I'll take the toll road, since this variance suggests a lot of traffic or an accident.
I also pick up my daughter from extended care at her grade school. Time is a factor and of the essence, since I don't want to be late.
It is very frustrating to have only the choice to activate or desactivate the possibility of toll roads.
I may not be intesrested in paying $10 toll to be only 2min faster, but I may be interested if it saves 1hour!
And the optimal route may pass on some toll roads, while avoiding other toll roads that do not save enough time.
The ideal system of toll preference would be to define an "availability to pay" (or choose among a few possibilities) : how much am I ready to pay in toll if it saves 1hour? (zero means desactivating toll roads)
French : c'est très frustrant de ne pouvoir choisir qu'entre activer ou désactiver la possibilité de routes à péage.
Je peux ne pas être intéressé à payer 10€ de péage si cela ne me fait gagner que 2 minutes, mais être intéressé si cela me fait gagner une heure!
Et le trajet optimal peut très bien prendre certains tronçons à péage, et en éviter d'autres qui ne feraient pas gagner suffisamment de temps.
Le système idéal de préférence pour les péages serait de définir une "disponibilité à payer" (ou de choisir parmi quelques options) : jusqu'à combien suis-je prêt à payer en péage si cela me fait gagner 1h? (zéro revenant à l'option "sans péage")
Bill Vojtech commented
I know you can set Waze to avoid tolls, but there are tolls and then there outrageous tolls. There are bridges in my area that cost $14 to cross. Some are tolls only inbound to the city. I want to avoid them. Others are only $4.95. I can live with that.
There's a toll highway that is a great road and not very expensive. I'd prefer to take that.
There should be a way to put a bridge or road on a banned list and even be able to choose the direction you want to ban.
It wanted to detour me 40 miles to avoid a $1.50 toll. That's just silly.
I frequently go on weekend road trips within a 3-6 hour radius. Looking at the different options between Avoid Tolls ON and OFF can yield vastly different times and shows nothing about how much money tolls will cost if that route is taken. It would really helpful if you could set an allowable toll threshold (e.g. <$10, $10-$20, $20-$30) to have more flexibility between the TIME AND MONEY tradeoff that the tolls setting addresses
I would rather drive an additional 10 minutes to save $15 or $30.
I would rather save 10 minutes and pay $0.50.
If waze would show how much the tolls are then I could decide which route to choose.
The way it's now, you can choose with or without tolls, and not knowing how much $$ the tolls are.